Kindle Fire HD

Category: Geeks r Us

Post 1 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2013 2:15:47

Hello, all. I'm unsure if you are aware, but supposedly, the new Kindle Fire HD has speech now. What else, apart from book reading, does the Kindle do? Sound off in the comments if you would ever consider purchasing one of these with the accessibility enhancements.

Post 2 by starfly (99956) on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2013 16:07:43

hmm... from what I saw its a ported talkback and seems quite accessible. On the eyes0free list is a podcast someone did.

Post 3 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2013 23:30:08

Is this a good tablet to get to experience Android? Further, could you provide the link of the podcast? I wonder if you will be able to browse the Internet, or just read books?

Post 4 by starfly (99956) on Thursday, 21-Nov-2013 9:56:12

I do not have the link to the podcast but on saro tec or "toptid bits" both have links to 3 videos that might answer your questions. Also, if you do go with this tablit and not a nexis7 your locked into the amazon Eco system because this tablet does not have the Google apps file on board.

Post 5 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Thursday, 21-Nov-2013 19:35:51

True. Would be a good device to read college textbooks, though.

Post 6 by season (the invisible soul) on Thursday, 21-Nov-2013 20:18:18

You can read college text books on Kindle apps on Androy or iOS. there are other apps available as well, like Google Playbooks, Nook, and so on. Unless Amazon totally embrace accessibility, Kindle will be a distant dream for me.

Post 7 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Sunday, 24-Nov-2013 1:51:43

Yes, but in class, I can't always have my cell phone out. Would it be better to get a Nexis tablet instead and just load the Kindle app? That way, I wouldn't be locked into Amazon's ecosystem and could download other applications. How would I advise my parents on the correct model to purchase for me as a Christmas present? What do you guys think of the accessibility? I've used I-Phones ever since they were released and never Androids. I will be using this device primarily for book reading and other apps; however, I will keep my IPhone. So, which one is better: Kindle with IPhone or Droid tablet?
Thanks.

If anyone uses Braille on Android, this would be helpful as well. What are the prices on these things? Which model is best to have? I would assume that you would want one that can upgrade to Kitcat. Someone offer me advice, as I am no Android expert.

Post 8 by write away (The Zone's Blunt Object) on Sunday, 24-Nov-2013 2:00:13

Isn't the kindle an android device. Plus, if you're talking about using braille with either IOS or android, I believe you need a braille display for that?

Post 9 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Sunday, 24-Nov-2013 2:11:46

At Write Away, I have two displays: a BrailleSense U2 and a Braillenote.

Post 10 by Ed_G (Zone BBS is my Life) on Sunday, 24-Nov-2013 7:47:30

My understanding is that the Kindle app for Android devices is not accessible with Talkback, even though Amazon's hardware players running Android include the ability to read books out loud.

This leaves you with the choice between using the Kindle app on your iPhone which works well with Voiceover using speech or braille, getting another Apple device or buying a hardware Kindle. Is there a reason you need another device? Are you concerned about your iPhone battery for instance? If not, then you might want to try the iOS app on the basis that you can do so now without spending any money and have nothing to lose. If you feel you need another device, then a hardware Kindle may be the way to go or another Apple device such as the iPad or iPad Mini.

Another option of course is to go for a different ebook app such as Google Books, which brings other Android devices back into play.

Post 11 by starfly (99956) on Monday, 25-Nov-2013 10:46:13

I would get the nexis7 second gen, Kindle is not accessible on android yet but you have barns and nobles app, google play's play books as well. It seems to me you want to get your hands durty with android but do not want to fully commit to the OS and keeping your Iphone and having a nexis7 would be the ideal way to go for now. Should you ever decide to leave IOS for good, the nexis5 has great hardware and comes pre-loaded with kitCat. I have the LG G2 which LG used its design templet and made the nexis5 from with slite deviations.

Post 12 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Friday, 29-Nov-2013 3:31:55

Thanks, I am trying to find the best price.

Post 13 by starfly (99956) on Friday, 29-Nov-2013 20:55:38

hardyboy09
, no problem glad to help!.

Post 14 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Saturday, 30-Nov-2013 0:29:29

When I get my Nexus, which will probably be tomorrow, can you post some useful tips? Such as I guess just getting started with Andorid?

Post 15 by starfly (99956) on Saturday, 30-Nov-2013 14:04:18

sure

Post 16 by starfly (99956) on Saturday, 30-Nov-2013 14:09:14

okay, when you do the two finger hold, wait for the device to say accessibility ready. A tutorial will come up please follow this torial so you can learn talkback's gesters . Just like an Iphone you can explore, swipe to navagate the tablit. I have posted some boards on android that cover accessible apps, gestrs and more. Please read them, they have web sights that will be quite helpful to you when your learning your tablit.

Post 17 by KC8PNL (The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better.) on Saturday, 30-Nov-2013 20:05:31

IN a sentence, braille on Android sucks big time, to the point I wanted to barf once I finally got it set up. Perhaps this has changed with 4.4, but I don't think BrailleBack has been updated since before 4.4 came out. Really? I can't read my email in braille? I can't even read books from the Play Store? Those are 2 deal breakers for me. Theoretically, k9 mail may work with braille, but I no longer have a Nexus to play around with to try it on. You can read the menus in the above mentioned apps in braille, but you can't get any of the actual content to display. Honestly, if you're going to be depending on braille, at least for the time being, you'll want to stick with iOS. Braille back may have come along way, but at this juncture, it's more designed for someone who uses braille as a luxery and not for someone who would want to depend on it. The Kindle app for iOS works great with braille support, and the app is free. If you have your phone in your pocket, you'll never need to take it out, just connect the u2 with it, mute speech, and off you go.
I know that the Kindle Fire HD is supposed to have braille display support, but since I don't have resources to look at one at this point, I cannot comment on its usability.

Post 18 by starfly (99956) on Saturday, 30-Nov-2013 21:53:47

I to do not have a braille device, it was sold so I can not test accessibility for braille at this time. Some my find a deal braker but I do not use braille with a computer that much to care if I can read books or other material in braille. So other then braille android is fine for those who want to try something else other then IOS.

Post 19 by hardyboy09 (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Saturday, 30-Nov-2013 23:39:35

Hello:

First of all, to the user concerned with Braille support on the Android, I do possess an IPhone and a BrailleSense U2, which, when combined, work flawlessly. However, the main reason for obtaining atablet is because there is no contract required, experimentation can commence, and I can mess around with Android endlessly.

A Note About My Tablet Purchase

Today, I went into Best Buy and purchased a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 instead of a Nexus. The primary reason behind this is because I couldn't play with the Nexus, as Google or someone had locked it, preventing TalkBack from working. According to a review, this tablet, The Galaxy Tab 3, runs out-of-date hardware, and has a Core 2 Duo processor and not quad core. It still has TalkBack though, so do you think this is an ideal tablet? Does it have to be a Nexus, or is that what blind people purchase for best results?

Also, the Nexus didn't have an SD card slot, which was another advantage for more storage. How do you enable TalkBack with the finger gesture?
Thanks.

Post 20 by starfly (99956) on Sunday, 01-Dec-2013 10:10:41

to enable talkback from the start up screen, place to fingers on your screen, hold until you here accessibility ready and the talkback tutorial start. Note, if someone has already signed into your gmail account, finished the set-up you need sighted help to turn talkback on. This tablit of your runs android 4.1 which does not have the ability to turn on talkback via your hold power and place two fingers on the screen if accessibility is checked un the accessibility settings.

Post 21 by starfly (99956) on Sunday, 01-Dec-2013 10:14:11

Oh, to answer your tablit question "which tablit does a blind person buy" nexis7 because it will always get updates until google drops the device like it did the nexis.

Post 22 by season (the invisible soul) on Sunday, 01-Dec-2013 18:15:26

what i want to know is what is the advantage of using a Kindle itself compare to Kindle app.

Post 23 by starfly (99956) on Sunday, 01-Dec-2013 20:37:45

the kindle app is not accessible on android like it is on IOS. On the kindle tablit that is a different story, my guess is amazon is dragging their feet because they are pushing their vertion of android.